Football Investor 2013/14 Review
Let’s start the end of season reviews with an easy one. Football Investor and more specifically the Combo bets.
In last years review of the service, my number one criticism was that the recorded odds were not achievable. I believe Stewboss took this on board and this season changed the way he quoted odds which ended up being much fairer. Last season my odds were 3.7% worse then those quoted, this year the difference is a tiny 0.1%. This is a combination of fairer odds being posted and me learning over the years how to get the best possible prices. A big thumbs up to Stewboss for a great change.
Most tipsters put up inflated odds because without them they would never show a profit, so the question that needs to be asked is if this service is profitable when quoting fair odds? That’s a big fat YES. This season my return was a very impressive 7.3% ROI. Easily the best return of the 5 soccer tipsters I follow. Sadly for me it is also the lowest staked, with a turnover of $146,715. I ended the season $10,716.38 in profit.
Lets see how my results compared to the official ones.
My Results $146,715.00 $10,716.38 7.3%
Official Results $139,000.00 $11,715.00 8.4%
You will notice it seems I have bet $7,715 more, but this is simply a case of my spreadsheet adding refunded (cancelled due to weather) bets. So I also bet $139,000 and my ROI should be 7.7%. Above I stated my odds were only 0.1% worse, and the difference between these results are 0.7%. The reason is because a few more winners odds would have shortened.
As you can see by the graph, it did not start well and took a few months before it got into profit. Once it hit profit in late December, it went on a great run before giving some profit back at the end of the season (a familiar situation to last year).
I’m keeping this review short as it’s a simple case of you being an idiot if this tipster was not part of your portfolio. You can sign up here.
Hi Steve,
Is it just the 1 system he uses or is it multiple choice like TFA ?
I have my doubts about these back fitted systems; they all show you would have made money in the past, but will they make money in the future ?
Just look at Gowi, the Irish football and golf expert !
I wonder if he will be profitable this year.
There are 4 systems. Football Investor, Strike Zone, Combo and Top Flight Euro.
The one I followed is the Combo system which is just games that appear on both FI and SZ. I will more then likely be adding the Top Flight Euro to my portfolio next season.
Lots of info on his website.
Hi Banner.
I think the last 5 seasons for Footie Investor and the last 4 seasons for TFA show that you can make money using football systems. I don’t think either service needs to worry about backfitted results when we have so many proofed results live!
I do agree though that just because a system has been profitable historically doesn’t mean it will profitable in the future but the same is true for any betting system or tipster.
If you ever come across a betting system that is guaranteed to make money in the future, please do share. 🙂
Cheers,
Graeme
I couldn’t agree more Graeme!
Hi Graeme,
Unfortunately, you are barking up the wrong tree. I have no desire to join your service.
As for guaranteed profitable services, some offer a profit guarantee. No profit of x pts, no fee. You only need to look.
I haven’t come across systems that offer a profit guarantee, though. I will be sure to let you know. You could, of course, start the ball rolling. : )
Sorry Banner, I wasn’t offering you a place in the service mate. I was commenting on the fact you mentioned backfitted systems and whether or not they will make money in the future. My point was that the best indication of future performance was the live results over the past 4/5 seasons from both services and not the results from 2000 to 2009!
Given the way TFA works, not sure I could offer a profit guarantee for everyone but for someone like Steve, I’d have no issue. Being honest, the
£180 Steve pays to join the service doesn’t mean much to me or Steve. I’d rather take a small % of Steve’s TFA profits rather than any subscription fee! No win, no fee.
Cheers,
Graeme
hahaha, I’ll stick to the current arrangement thanks. Looking forward to my first 100k TFA season
Like for everyone, my main concern when joining any tips service is how possible it is to get the recommended odds.
I see you got only 0.1% less of the recommended prices which is amazing, but I need to ask you: how long after the tips were released did you take the bets?
If for some reason you couldn’t take them the minute they are released, is it possible to find those prices later or like with GOWI you can only hope they will come back or you have to wait until the game is in-play?
I read you only followed the combo system, does it use flat stakes? Why you didn’t try the other two systems as well (FI and SZ), maybe with much lower stakes ? do you think that could be a bad idea given how much it would be staked each weekend ?
Thanks for your answers!
Hey Mariano,
I took the odds throughout the week and then just before the matches started, as you can imagine, some odds blow out and others never recovered. It does take a lot of work to get those odds.
Yes, it is flat stakes. I only used Combo as its name implies, it is a combination of FI and SZ. I may look to add the Euro ones this year. This year I am looking to diversify a lot more so might instead bet FI and SZ instead of combo.
Thanks for your answer, Steve.
When are bets released? I’m at Southamerica and I get GOWI at least 2-3 hours after everyone else (emails are sent 5-6am my local time) so I’m used to do “a lot of work” to get the recommended prices.
I’m already subscribed to FI, but now I need to make up my mind about how and what I’m going to follow.
Maybe lower stakes for FI and SZ, or higher on the Combo ones like you did…
I’m not sure when they are released, I know I am asleep. Email Stewboss and I’m sure he can give you all the information. He will also help you come up with a good staking plan.
Well, if you are sleeping then I’ll probably be awake 🙂
Thanks again for the info, I think Stewboss is getting the first email of the season ready where he will write for sure about the staking levels, and then I’ll make a decision.
Hi Steve,
May i ask, what was your stake (flat i guess) throughout the whole season to finish at +10.7K with the Combo system?
$500 flat stake. This year I am doubling it to $1000